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are republicans asking paul ryan for advice on beating president obama? >>> and as the president surges in this second term, we have news tonight about the birther movement. and it might surprise you. >>> plus, 50 years since civil rights leader medgar evers was murdered. his legacy is living on through his wife. and i counted the civil rights movement. evers has a big moment at the inauguration. she joins me live tonight. you're watching "politics nation," the place for politics, msnbc. [ male announcer ] when these come together, and these come together, one thing you can depend on is that these will come together. delicious and wholesome. some combinations were just meant to be. tomato soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. let's say you pay your guy around 2% to manage your money. that's not much you think. except it's 2% every year. does that make a difference? search "cost of financial advisors" ouch. over time it really adds up. then go to e-trade and find out how much our advice costs. spoiler alert: it's low. really? yes, really. e-trade offers investment advice a
policy change. let's not go crazy. paul ryan and the young guns could lead a panel called 40 is the new 18 about how we could lift the voting age from 18 to 40. problem solved. i got lots of great ideas. if you invited me to come, i would be delighted to share them with you. i would love to be there. sa while i'm joking, they are totally serious. rather than change their message and adjust to the changing demographics, the republican party has apparently decided their best bet is to rig the electoral game. to paraphrase "the gamble qugame all losers they yell deal the cards again. let's not let them. that does it for us. martin bashir, it is all yours. >> i agree entirely. it's thursday, january 17th, and the president's first task is to keep america's children safe, so who could possibly disagree with that. >> there will be pundits and politicians and special interest lobbyists publicly warning of the tyrannical all-out assault on liberty. >> is there now an obligation to ban motorcycles, bicycles, knives, et cetera? >> i'm afraid that president obama may have this king complex sort of
that might not have been done last time. and paul ryan has the sort of, these are not the androids you're looking for, this will allow it to be your principle -- they just convince them -- over the course of a couple of days that they will have three p yiv points, they will be able to say the onus is on the president to pass the budget. the first time they were able to look reasonable since 2009. they brought them around on it. they're asking for a nearly clean extension. i was talking to a john boehner spokesperson after this was presented and we were asking, didn't the boehner rule say we need cuts for every dollar of debt limit increase? he said well, the boehner rule is cuts versus reform. they're trying to sell that is not backing away from what they did before, but it kind of -- kind of is. >> it does seem like it kind of is, but going three months into the future, let's say you get the budgets passed. you have two other moments for fiscal showdown, you have the spending sequester, cuts to defense and then the spending programs. you have continuing resolution, which funds the gov
, that was pretty much a reference to paul ryan to mitt romney's comments on the 47%. >> paul ryan had a various generous tweet saying we're with the president today. i congratulate him on the day of the second inauguration. >> today. what happens tomorrow? >> this president is telling us, he is expecting four years of war with republicans but he doesn't care about that to ensure his legacy. that is almost irrelevant. he thinks the biggest problem in america is not our lack of economic growth, that we're facing decline and bankruptcy. our biggest quality is equality. the lack of social justice and he will address that. he will leave office four years from now not a hero like reagan who turned the country around but a hero like martin luther king who took up and said the equality belongs to everybody in this country. black americans, hispanic americans, women, those who are disadvantaged. that's my mission. and guess what, even if the country is broke, i don't need money for that. that's a moral movement i can lead and get on mt. rushmore. so i think if you ask most americans what the biggest pro
of programs, social security, medicare, medicaid. but directly rebuking paul ryan and the 47% comment that got mitt romney in trouble. there may have been high arching philosophical tones but there were also those tones. >> are you embracing the 47% comment? >> no, no, i wouldn't say, i don't know if it is fair to say it wasn't partisan at all. >> this was not a speech where he stood up and said my mission is to leave office like a ronald reagan, being the president who turned around an economy, restored the confidence of a nation in its place in the world. no. he turned inward. and he said my mission here is to pick up the legacy of martin luther king and expand it as i think you've noted. that's not something he needs to work with republicans in congress for. it is something he doesn't need money for, by the way. it is, you're right, a moral agenda. but it is a very left of center argument that he made today about government. and republicans are going to go after him on that. this was a warrior president today. >> there was a more aggressive tone, you might say. let's play another moment fro
to paul ryan and said that line directly to him. do you think he was sending a message across the bell? >> i hope he's sending a message. a lot of progressives look at that and say wait a second, is that the same president who was willing to support the change in social security, or is he going to stand firm. the rhetoric sounds good but how does the president act? what are the offers in negotiation on the table coming. >> john: george, we have 30 second before a break but mr. obama managed to slap down the comment that 47% of the country is made of a moochers? >> i think did he. he wants to remind people what this election was really about which was 30,000 feet up was about the romney view of takers, and the view of the strong social safety net. he doesn't want to get up and say romney said silly things about binders full of women. he wanted to drive home what the message of the election was really about. >> cenk: david shuster, i thank you for your time and brilliance this evening. and mr. zornick applies stay with us. current tv presents the presidential inauguration plus insight i
for average americans right now. >> thank you, both. >>> next, paul ryan says no to the people devastated by hurricane sandy. what a guy. stay with us. >> if the nra's got a list that obama for america has a bigger list. and it is time to get activated. ♪ [ male announcer ] when these come together, and these come together, one thing you can depend on is that these will come together. delicious and wholesome. some combinations were just meant to be. tomato soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. is efficiently absorbed in small continuous amounts. citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. citracal slow release. humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. at liberty mutual insurance, we understand. that's why our auto policies come with accident forgiveness if you qualify, where your rates won't go up due to your first accident, and new car replacement, where, if you total your new car, we give you the money for a new one. call... to talk to an insurance ex
are not takers in his speech. now, that was as clear a reference to the great paul ryan as anyone could be. ayn rand's philosophy, divide the people between takers and makers, and the president was basically saying we are not takers as a nation. >> that's right. as a matter of fact, he said by helping those who are down and out or in the lower income, we actually strengthen our society, and he's right. and i got to tell you, martin, as i sat there as the son of two former sharecroppers who plowed the land where their foreparents had been slaves and now to sit in the congress of the united states of america, i could relate to that. and i hope and i think what the president is saying is that for -- and he even mentioned a little girl who might be going through some difficulty, may not have some money -- >> growing up in deep poverty. >> but to know she has a chance to be somebody. i could really relate to that. as a matter of fact, it gave me chills and i don't usually get chills. >> there you go, chris. did you get any chills, chris? sorry, chris. congressman cummings was just saying that when t
term is starting where his first left off, a debt ceiling crisis and paul ryan twisting the facts. the president was quite insistent monday he will not stomach hostage taking nor medicare and social recipients referred to as takers. >> the commitments we make to each other through medicare and medicaid and social security, these things do not sap our initiative, they strengthen us. they do not make us a nation of takers. they free us to take the risks that make this country great. >> and for those who need a quick campaign 2012 refresher, it was quite obvious to whom that phrase, a nation of takers, was directed at. >> we can become a society where the net majority of americans are takers, not makers. we're going to a majority of takers versus makers in america. more takers than makers in society. takers versus makers in america. >> could have been listening to ayn rand then. joining us is democratic congressman charlie rangel of new york. >> good to be back with you. >> congratulations on a new congress. in an interview today paul ryan said those comments of his had nothing whats
with you. call now to request your free decision guide. >>> just a few hours ago paul ryan claimed to have the solution to our debt ceiling impasse. he calls it a short-term debt limit extension. you may know it better as kicking the can down the road. which reminds me, there was someone just a few months ago who was famously against that kind of a deal. who was it? >> kick the can. kick the can. kick the can. >> right, of course. that's who it was. joining us is jonathan alter and jared bernstein. welcome to you both. john, we've seen speaker boehner's power getting weaker and weaker. is paul ryan now the de facto head of the gop? >> well, you know, actually, martin, i think he has been much more influential than people realize -- >> because he's been quite quiet publicly. >> going back to 2011. he has so much respect within that republican caucus. he's the guy who killed simpson/bowl simpson/bowles. he was on the simpson/bowles commission and wasn't willing to have any revenue increases. his fingerprints were not on it. and then when it came to the grand bargain, he told john boehner wai
, they started -- the republicans -- taking shots. let me show you where respective paul ryan responded to the president's takers comment at the inaugural address. >> no one is suggesting that our earned entitlements like payroll taxes for medicare and social security are putting u yo in a taker category. when the president does kind of a switcheroo like that, what he's trying to do is we are maligning these programs. so it's kind of a convenient twist of terms to try and shadow box a straw man in order to win by default. >> steve, interpret that for common people like me. because there's a lot of double talk there that i didn't hear him explain it that way when he said it originally. and it doesn't make much sense to me now that he has said this. >> no. and the entire message of the last few years of the republican party whether it's makers versus takers, whether it's the 47% theme. the 47% who supposedly don't pay taxes. they're talking about federal income tax. not state taxes, estate taxes, these sorts of things. that the republican party ran into this big problem in 2012 where that
'll get an update. >>> also, congressman paul ryan says the republicans are putting a temporary debt ceiling extension on the table. but if they don't take strong measures on the spending sequester and other budget cuts, they're going to be in danger of being out of office and losing the house in 2014. >>> now, president obama, many of our leaders never seem to talk about the real root causes for crime, economic failure and violence. i'm talking about the breakdown of families. talking about the absence of faith-based moral teachings in school. and the shrinking number of people even attending religious services. can we prevent future tragedies if we focus more on family values and faith? here now to help us with this, father george william rutler the church of our savior in new york. and the rabbi shmoley, author of "the broken american man and how to fix it." rabbi, let me begin with you. most of the mass murders and horrible events are committed by men or young boys. >> that is absolutely right. >> and i want to go there because that leads me to family breakup and that there are n
's your thoughts on this? we've seen paul ryan, marco rubio extend a hand to president obama so to speak and suggest they are ready to talk about immigration reform. what's the biggest hurdle here? >> well, i think the biggest hurdle in the end is going to be politics, of course, but the issue of citizenship. what marco rubio outlined this week and last weekend is very close to what president obama talked about in 2011. and so i think that will provide some cover for other republicans. when you've got someone like marco rubio, a rising star in the party, paul ryan, saying we're ready to do a deal here, but the devil is in the details as they always say. democrats feel very emboldened on this issue, and they're going to sort of, you know, swing for the fences. they want full legal status, including citizenship for undocumented immigrants and it's not clear how far republicans will go to do that. >> scott, it is clear that they're listening because senator rubio had before only supported very small steps in the immigration reform debate, a series of small bills. he did not want a big sweep
. where else do you see paul ryan mingling with jay-z and beyonce who belted out the national anthem. >> the ceremony was over there was a stream of pomp and circumstance waiting. >> from signing papers to officially nominate the new cabinet to lunch with congressional leaders. then, of course, the parade. the first family could make the way back to the white house in that grand bulletproof review stand. yet all of that could wait because leaving the west front of the capitol, the president went off script to take in the vista of the national mall. mr. obama seemed to be taking in the moment. overheard saying he would never quite see this view again. as the president is set to sell the agenda in the "state of the union" next month, it is worth noting that gallop is out -- gallup is out with approval rating for the third term and the third worst number since world war ii. only better than carter and ford. worth noting after the president it was reagan and clinton. two guys who had troubles in the second terms but also got a lot done. >> bret: all right, ed. the band behind you, the pe
. between now and april when paul ryan unveils his budget. you are boeing going to see hig for his cuts. they want him to take the lead when it comes to reform. >> you heard president obama yesterday. i dare say he does not want spending caughts and i dare say he would be happy to see in reverses in government spending. so that does not jive with what the house is doing. >> that is a fair point. some critics say inside of the house conference there is a real fight. they want to take these bold stances on the ten year balanced budget so they can get some leverage to fund the government when it comes up for a vote in a couple of week. >> no, i think they are doing the lord's work. thank you very much. we have a couple of special guests to tell us more. democrat from vermont, shawn duffy, republican from wisconsin. to both of you gentlemen friends of this show i wish you a happy new year. mr. boehner attached a bublg et to this. >> there are no specific cuts. where in medicare or the pentagon are they going to cut? they have to specify that before you can have a serious conversation. i don
the handwriting on the wall. when you look at these bipartisan votes, you have paul ryan voting for higher taxes. you have both ryan and rubio voting for immigration reform now. and i think you're going to see enough votes in the center to raise the debt ceiling without any kind of -- chris: are they jumping shark on this? >> i think so. i think the public is certainly sick of it. and i also think the business community doesn't want to hear anything about shutting down the government. chris: you're the expert. i real me mean this. people advise me on making financial decisions. they think the economy looks pretty good. don't mess it up. >> it does look pretty good, as best we can tell. the one thing to remember is it's not just the debt ceiling. it's these automatic cuts that are scheduled to take place march 16789 the debt ceiling isn't their only opportunity to try to get the president to agree to cuts. there are looming deadlines. so i think the republicans will get obama to agree to some cuts, even if we don't have a really economically damaging showdown. chris: how are we going to deal to e
it by knocking back against the demagoguery i just heard with respect to paul ryan's budget. you know paul ryan had the courage to take on social security reform, medicaid reform and medicare reform. as my colleague just repeated, one of their talking points, that it decimated this group or the other, it balanced in 40 years. i want your viewers to let that soak in. paul ryan's budget balances in 40, four, zero, years. yet my colleagues on the other side of the aisle say that is draconian and mean-spirited. social security is easy to fix. medicare is easy to fix but not when you trot out stale talking points and you vouchers that will destroy medicare as we know it. if you want a fair conversation about it which everyone concedes privately on entitledment reform. when someone has the courage of paul ryan and get demagogued and show ads of pushing a senior citizen off a cliff makes you less likely to do it. tracy: for those of us at home listening to all this the word bipartisanship has become a dirty word down in d.c. i hope you find time to find it again and work through these things. congress
and described as reckless and irresponsible and unworkable. >> paul ryan, the powerful chairman of the house committee and former g.o.p. vice presidential nominee said all options clouding prioritization remain on the table. ryan suggest itig the divided government and gridlock if the long-term deal is achievable it will take time to negotiate it. failing that, toomey and ryan said it's the only available course. >> bret: is it tough to do? if you have the law in place is it tough for budget folks to implement it? >> very tough. no president wants to give up flexibility. president wants the white house back. they don't want the hands tied by congress if the shoe is on other foot. >> bret: thank you. >> some people brought you obamacare want to control what you hear about it on the news. up next, obamacare was intended to get more people on health insurance. is it already costing you money this or even your job in that's next. fficiently absorbedl continuous amounts. citracal slow release continuously releases calcium plus d with efficient absorption in one daily dose. citracal slow release.
everything hostage. i saw paul ryan wins and say he is not going to use that word. >> the nonprofit that was launched today, organizing for action, i spoke with jim messina, a few minutes ago about it. it plans to bring the president's second term agenda forward. what can you tell me about the president's plan to take his goods agenda on the road campaign style? >> reporter: well, i can tell you, craig that, according to senior administration officials the president and vice president will be hitting the road in the days and weeks after the inauguration to sell their proposal for stiffer gun laws and gun safety package. it's a strategy they feel has been successful in the past. they used it during the fiscal cliff fight, the student loan debate and they feel it's a way to rally the american public on their side and to pressure congress to act. it has been successful in the past, will it be in this instance? of course, that is a big question mark. this is a very controversial issue. but the polls show that the president has the majority of america on his side. the wall street journal
, my favorite image, is that that included beyoncyonce stand near paul ryan and there was this vision of them together. this is fun. this is kind of american politics and culture, you know, crossing these lines. and will it hold? perhaps not. but for a moment, it is a recognition that we don't have violent military coups in this country. we have a peaceful transition of power. >> you also saw there chairman frank as the reference in terms of his speech where he talked about the struggles that had gone from selma to stone wall and all. on the program, myrlie evers, the widow of medgar evers, on the program, sonya sotomayo justice. show me the change that we're talking about. >> no question. when hispanics, when gay and lesbian and bisexual and transgender people, when people who have been excluded come forward, it is not at the expense of the people, but it's important for everybody. and that is his theme. it is a better america. it is a more prosperous america. it is when you employ the talents of everybody. by the way, we saw that. white men dominated the manufacturing in america. an
the way, he is smacking p i people around, smacking around paul ryan, by employing his own "takers receipt righetorrhetori >> we recognize that no matter how responsibly we live our lives, anyone of us in our time could face a sudden job loss, or illness, or a home sweat away in a terrible storm. the commitments we make to each other, through medicare and medicaid and social security, these things do not sap our initiative, they strengthen us. they do not make us a nation of takers. they free us to take the risks that make this country great. >> that is such an important point about how these programs free us. you know, we don't all have our grandmothers sleeping in the home with us because they now have social security, medicare, that changed the dynamics of poverty among elderly. who used to be the most poverty-stricken segment of society. >> and it used to be the numbers, what are the long-term budget impacts of it. what i was struck by, to go off of paul ryan's premise, in 2008, we need to come together because we're all rational people and let's do it for the common good. now it was,
alrejected the division the term by paul ryan with the makers and the takers. >> we do not believe that in this country, freedom is reserved for the lucky. or happiness for the few. we recognize that no matter how responsibly we live our lives, any one of us, at any time, may face a job loss or a sudden illness or a home swept away in a terrible storm. the commitments we make to each other through medicare and medicaid and social security, these things do not sap our initiative, they strengthen us. they do not make us a nation of takers, they free us to take the risks that make this country great. >> rick, that was the first time i've ever heard anybody make that fasz nating defense of these safety net programs. wherein parents will risk anything. they'll spend all of their money as they make it on tuition bills for their kids, with the assumption of if worse comes to worse, i can make it on social security. >> yeah, that's right. and this was a -- you might say that this was an ideological speech in the best sense of that word. and the battle of ideas and of visions is one that li
-term budget impacts of it. what i was struck by, to go off of paul ryan's premise, in 2008, we need to come together because we're all rational people and let's do it for the common good. now it was, we need to come together because there are serious problems out there. climate change is one of them. other stuff, as well. gun control, immigration was referenced. women's rights and equal pay. he said it is time for the rational majority to say enough with this stuff. enough of the climate denial, and enough of the takers versus makers rhetoric. i thought it was an intense pivot of what was happening in the first three years. >> and the best thing, what was not in there. being all hung up about the debt and deficit. he didn't go on and on, even in his speech about the convention, he talked about a $4 trillion deal. if this is an indication of where he is going, we're done with it. >> i want to see what he says about the state of the union. this has to be jointly -- >> we'll have you back. >> thank you. >> no, this is an inauguration night. >> i promise original thoughts when we come back for
not mean we're a nation of takers. i mean, that really was a slap to the paul ryans, the small-government republicans. >> directly. paul ryan has kind of made his bread and butter saying, americans, some are makers and some are takers. >> 47% who got republicans in trouble, who got mitt romney in trouble on the campaign. and again, you saw this other side of the president today, one that was doubling down on progressivism and saying i'm not going to be pushed around this time. this is where i stand. >> we're going to take a quick break. we anticipate seeing michelle obama, president obama. a lot of eyes will be on michelle obama, wonderic what chose rr wearing. a lot of american designers are glued to the television, waiting to see if one of their dresses will be worn by the first lady. it's apparently down to two. none of the designers have been informed all or not michelle obama has chosen her dress. as you see t they will be seeing it for the first time. it's going to have a big impact on their careers. wreel we'll talk about that. stay tuned. we'll be right back. just the r
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that came to mind for me as we saw that striking shot of beyonce and jay-z with paul ryan just behind them is that we've got a 2016 campaign that's going to get going soon enough. what role do people like paul ryan, very influential, play in the resolution of the debates? >> absolutely. now the politics begins. we're going to see the distinction perhaps between leadership and the gaining out of political implications. i would think that even now in the next several months paul ryan and others are better served in putting the nation first and that would drive them for political -- >> he did vote for the fiscal cliff deal. he seems to have been a force forex tending debt ceiling in order to gain some time to negotiate. i think all of that argues in favor of some time to get the right things done. >> chuck gabriel, how did you read or hear the president's passage where he talked about medicare and social security and he said the commitments we make to each other through medicare, medicaid, social security, these things do not zap our initiative, they strengthen it. they do not make us a natio
. paul ryan, where are you? we need more spending cuts, more entitlement reform and even some tax reform especially business tax cuts to spur economic growth. my two cents. here is an old friend, david walker, founder, president and ceo of the come back america initiative. he knows a lot about this. david, let me ask you this. is boehner wrong to insist that a dollar debt increase should be accompanied by a spending decrease? >> the fact is we need to pay our bills. and i do however think that we have a spending problem. the federal government has gone from being 2% of the economy, 100 years ago. to 24% today. headed to 37% by 2040 absent a change in course. the republicans ought to leverage the sequester and the c.r. not to shut down the government, but we need to reduce spending. we also have to keep in mind if you try to hold the debt ceiling hostage, social security is negative cash flow. therefore, that means you could face a situation where the social security checks don't go out on time. the last time we faced that, it was 1983. and that was the only reason we got reforms. that wo
in the country. congressman paul ryan is weighing in. he wrote this on his facebook page. senator rubio is exactly right on the immediate to fix our broken immigration system. i support the principle he's outlined. modernization of our immigration law, stronger security to curb illegal immigration and respect important the rule of law in addressing the complex challenge of the undocumented population. eagerness to jump onboard is bipartisan. majority leader harry reid describing the prospects for immigration reform in the months ahead. >> it is going to be first thing on our agenda. the -- majority, every senate, lists their top ten items. immigration is the number one item. we are going to do immigration. they are now -- agreed tentatively on a path of citizenship which is the big stumbling block. we may be able to come up with a bipartisan bill quicker than you think. >> it is going to move fast. bottom line big deals happening in congress on a bipartisan basis when there are people on both sides who stand to benefit. in this case republicans in congress and republicans nationally imm
didn't hear it from paul ryan, and i didn't hear it from the leaders. and that's the part i don't get. the debt ceiling, three months, whatever. the continuing resolution, that's a little bit in the weeds. but all right. fine. you can work with that. but i didn't hear them say what that was going to mean for spending, either. >> that's a great point, larry. they're not articulating spending cuts enough. but when you have someone like paul ryan at this retreat in williamsburg leading the effort behind the scenes for the short-term extension, he's telling members, especially the skeptical back benchers, that when that cr comes up in a couple months, when that sequester fight comes up and defense cuts in a couple months, house republicans will push for the spending cuts but they don't want to lose the pr bat toll a president who's very adept at pointing his finger at republicans and saying they want to cause default. >> okay. i think they're losing the pr battle anyway. >> perhaps they are. >> i mean, i don't know. i know obama's very fassel, but i also know democrats will never cut spen
but they admit that they've got work to do. paul ryan described it best when they said one of the things we're discussing is the fact that we control the house they control the white house especially following the results of the november election. >> it sounds like they're changing the tone a little bit. >> this was really important for the house republicans because they didn't do this when it came to them coming into power after two years ago when they took back control in 2010. so it helped for john boehner to get his troops in line and to get the conservative groups onboard with the budget proposal and to get that messaging across, very simple line. no budget, no pay, right? it's tweetable. it's something that they can get republicans, tea party republicans all onboard behind that and be united in a way that you haven't seen so far over the last few years. >> it's also one of the messages that will resonate with folks in this country who hear we'll stop paying them? we dislike them anyway? we should cut their pay? >> with all of the talk with republicans being in control with most of the
within the republican party. for example, congressman paul ryan, a man you know very well closely and you work with him. he says regarding the takers remark from the president's address, i understand the president will continue to use straw man arguments, affix views to your political adversaries. they do not have in order to try and win an argument by default. that's the reaction to the president saying people are not takers in this country. mccain said the president should have reached out in the speech saying this is the eight inauguration i have been to and always there's been a portion of the speech where the president says i reach out my hand because we need to work together. that wasn't in this speech. so from immigration to the rights of those who are gay in our communities and in our neighborhood, in this country, to the other issues, as far as income inequality that the president said need to be addressed, how do you get this done? >> well, tamron, i must have heard a different speech than senator mccain and paul ryan. i thought the president was very clear that we're all in thi
additional cost to the taxpayer. and that's just crazy. >> when you say cave, are you talking about paul ryan who says maybe what we should do is increase the debt ceiling for the short-term? >> no, actually, i think that's a bad approach. because we just lurch from crisis to crisis. the paul ryan budget that the house passed with basically every single republican except for, i think, two, that would require in its own terms an increase in the debt ceiling of $1.5 trillion in two years. the budget they voted for requires the debt ceiling to be raised. and now when the time comes to avoid default, they don't want to do it. but i think what you're seeing is speaker boehner knows this isn't a viable tactic. i think mr. ryan knows it's not a viable tactic. but there's a lot in the republican conference that continue to see this doomsday kind of approach as a viable approach. and i think that cooler heads are starting to prevail on the republican side. and that's a good thing. >> and you are part of this no labels coalition wanting to reach across the aisle. but let me read to you what david brook
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